Why the Dialogue between Lutherans and Roman Catholics Will Not Lead to Unity
1. The Inability to Agree on Women’s Ordination.
When the predecessor bodies of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America decided to ordain women, they decided to prevent any future reunion with Rome. The ELCA would undoubtedly have to rescind women’s ordination before this could happen, or there would have be a split within Lutheranism prior to reunion over the issue, a split I do not see happening.
2. The Enforcement of Mandatory Clerical Celibacy as the Norm for the Western Rite
While it may be possible for Lutheran clerics to become Roman Catholic priests under a Pastoral Provision like that offered to Anglicans, clerical celibacy would remain the norm. After the first generation of married priests from Lutheranism retired, the united church would be back in the same position it is in now, where it would require new candidates for orders to be celibate. This is one Lutheran who sees mandatory celibacy for the Western Rite as an abuse that was corrected during the Reformation that I think Rome should accept but never will. In fact, Rome recently reaffirmed its commitment to this idea.
3. The Role of the Papacy
We Lutherans bear the name of a man who said that the Pope was the Anti-Christ and that the Church of Rome was the Whore of Babylon. We can dance around it however we want, but it is right there in print. And don’t talk about authorial intent. Luther commissioned carvings by Cranach that showed Luther taking a big steaming dump in the pope’s fancy hat. I don’t think you get more antagonistic than that.
Quite honestly, I happen to like Pope Benedict XVI so far. I had profound respect for Pope John Paul II (I even have a picture of him in my office). But I have disagreed with some of their thoughts and actions and I enjoy the freedom to disagree, even when they speak ex cathedra. OTOH, when I look at popes like Leo X, even on my most charitable days, I think I am looking at a man who rejected the grace offered him at baptism, a petty despot playing king who did not demonstrate the least bit of knowledge about the Christian faith. (note: who am I to say…I am not God…but there you have it)
Lutherans are wary of power in any sense, especially those in the ELCA who revel in their anti-nomian, neo-pagan practices. And let’s not forget those who are Rick Warren wannabes. For a lot of these folks, they could care less about visible unity with Rome, and in many ways, probably agree with Luther’s assessment about the Pope.
4. Ecumenism: Roman Style
Rome already sees itself as possessing the fullness of the deposit of faith. Ecumenism for Rome is getting people to agree with the Magisterium, not analyzing itself for any errors. Needless to say, compromise is not on the minds of the PCPU.
So where does this leave us? I am one of those who desires reunion with Rome in the bottom of my soul, but I must grapple with the fact that I will never see it happen, nor will anyone in the foreseeable future. I don’t think we will be united until that day when we sit at the great banquet table, and share the feast with the one who has called us his own, in spite of our consistent distorting of his message of unity.
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We must ask ourselves why reunion must mean assimilation rather than the creation of a Lutheran Rite with a Lutheran patriarchate (or two) and governance style rooted within Lutheranism’s tendency toward a diffuse concentration of power.
I think the Roman understanding of reunion is generally based on assimilation and reduction of diversity–a Borg model as my prof. here put it. I prefer a more Orthodox approach.
I disagree with Rome on women’s ordination and marriage, and having been Roman Catholic, these are two areas where conservatives these days think that what the Pope says goes regardless of whether what is said is declared infallible. It reminded me a lot of biblical fundamentalism.
I appreciate much of my Roman Catholic past, but I find the ability of self-criticism in the upper eschalons of that tradition to be worse than those of other traditions–not that this isn’t a temptation everywhere.
The issue of assimilation is what is weighing heaviest on me. We seem so far removed from the controversies of the 16th century, so we have gone on to create other obstacles to reunion.
I think the idea of a Lutheran Rite is a good one, but I can’t see it ever happening, which is sad.
I think this is also sad for me because I am having a very hard time reconciling my Catholic tendencies within the ELCA. Let’s face it, I pray to Mary, I kiss icons, and I prefer pre-Vatican II liturgies. I am not exactly the poster boy for the ELCA. There are times when I wish I could swim the Tiber, but I at this point that is not the solution, not only because I am a pastor (which I believe God and the Church called me to be), but also because I am divorced and remarried. There are a host of other issues, but these are the ones most immediate in my own situation.
I somtimes feel a bit like Augustine, praying, “Lord, make us one, but not yet.”
reunion means assimilation because they are right. If I can speak on their behalf.
the model of diversity is pretty problematic, though, in some ways. Anglicans want to maintain some kind of…something…in the midst of diversity and I don’t think it works. At all. I think Rome knows that without centralized authority, you have chaos, heresy and schism.
I’m sorry, but having been Roman Catholic, I can say from such as this, that Roman Catholic centralization is gravely problematic allowing little room for institutional self-criticism.
The way the sex abuse scandal has been handled here and abroad is an atrocity, without a doubt. The evidence that bishops and cardinals have covered up what happened and even moved priests to other parishes and assingments is very disturbing.
The new Archbishop of Atlanta, however, has been at the forefront of calling folks to accountability and supporting victims. This is a far cry from the former Archbishop of Atlanta.
I think this may be cause for another post, because it has me thinking more about governance issues.
I still think someone needs to be in charge. church is not a democracy.
That I agree with. The democratization of Christianity is responsible for a lot of our problems in the mainline.
Strangely enough, unity is one of the most important attributes of being Christians, and we just don’t know how to do it